Wolters Kluwer is very interested in interacting with and understanding next-generation innovators and professionals. Read this online Skype chat between Wolters Kluwer’s Dennis Cahill and young innovator James Gilles. James is the son of Rayellen Gilles, who works at Wolters Kluwer and was one of the finalists of the 2011 Global Innovation Award.
![]() Name: Age: 15 Interests: Developing apps in his free time; visited a summer camp focused on building apps ![]() |
![]() Name: Age: 45 Job: Executive Vice President, Global Platform Organization ![]() |
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[JG] |
James Gilles |
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[DC] |
Dennis Cahill | |
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04:04:19 |
[DC] |
what motivated you to get into mobile apps |
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04:04:38 |
[JG] |
Interest, mostly. |
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04:05:18 |
[DC] |
what did the app you developed do |
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04:05:18 |
[JG] |
I was looking through different classes and there was one available on mobile apps, which I use a lot |
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04:05:55 |
[JG] |
I’ve made a couple |
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04:06:05 |
[JG] |
Let’s see |
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04:07:04 |
[JG] |
The one I developed during that class was just a sort of little game- it rendered a procedurally generated worm on screen and let you customize it |
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04:08:04 |
[JG] |
Aside from that I wrote an application engine that used the compass on an Android smartphone to allow you to move through a virtual environment |
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04:08:33 |
[JG] |
It didn’t end up working very well, because the compass was really badly calibrated, though |
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04:09:07 |
[JG] |
I also wrote a small app to scan through a webcomic and store indivisdual comic strips in an on-phone database |
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04:09:13 |
[JG] |
*individual |
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04:10:03 |
[DC] |
where these all on andriod based devices? did you build them using eclipse ? |
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04:10:41 |
[JG] |
No, the class was on iOS, so that app was build for an iPod with apple’s Xcode |
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04:11:00 |
[JG] |
But for the others I used eclipse |
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04:11:21 |
[JG] |
(and a text editor and terminal, for when eclipse wasn’t working) |
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04:11:47 |
[DC] |
Which phone do you prefer? and which dev environment did you prefer |
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04:12:19 |
[JG] |
Oh, I just remembered, I wrote a security demonstration app for Android- it showed how easy it is to use an app to get user information |
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04:12:29 |
[JG] |
but, regarding the question |
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04:13:14 |
[JG] |
iOs and objective-C are very well documented and they tend to be less glitchy |
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04:14:24 |
[JG] |
But they are also very rigid- apple forces you to use a particular application model and use data in specific ways- plus they’re closed-source |
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04:14:48 |
[JG] |
Android is open-source, and has a very active dev community so it’s easy to get online support with |
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04:18:16 |
[DC] |
back to your comic strip app - could you expose a comic strip of the day or allow users to search for specific comic strips? |
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04:18:23 |
[JG] |
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04:18:39 |
[JG] |
it depends |
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04:20:37 |
[JG] |
they could search through their archived comic strips, and import all strips with just tags to search and only download the images when they wanted to view the comics |
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04:20:52 |
[JG] |
harry.the.gilles: but I didn’t implement a web search but there was a ‘download current strip’ button too |
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04:21:57 |
[DC] |
Pretty cool, so a user could create their own personal archive |
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04:22:02 |
[JG] |
Yeah |
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04:22:11 |
[JG] |
Sort of |
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04:22:31 |
[DC] |
did you ever think about exposing any of these apps to the App Store |
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04:22:48 |
[JG] |
Yes |
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04:23:30 |
[JG] |
But I never really had a full app to put on an App Store. I usually just do proof of concept / practice work for myself. |
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04:24:02 |
[DC] |
how much time do you think you spent on the comic strip app |
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04:24:18 |
[JG] |
meh |
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04:25:08 |
[JG] |
like 1 hour for the actual coding, fifteen minutes sketching it out, 3 hours debugging |
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04:25:16 |
[JG] |
story of my life |
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04:25:30 |
[JG] |
It was pretty spur-of-the-moment |
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04:26:30 |
[DC] |
pretty neat that you could get a proof of concept pulled together in a long afternoon, how long do you think it would take to finish and publish it? |
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04:26:46 |
[JG] |
As an actual app? |
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04:26:49 |
[JG] |
um |
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04:26:55 |
[JG] |
couple days |
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04:27:16 |
[JG] |
Assuming I had money for hosting fees and whatnot |
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04:29:08 |
[DC] |
that is what I find most amazing about the mobile app space given a good idea and a couple of weeks of work you have access to an amazing marketplace of potential users/buyers |
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04:29:14 |
[JG] |
Yeah |
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04:29:28 |
[JG] |
the most difficult thing is getting users to buy in |
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04:30:22 |
[JG] |
They have so much content available that they really can be picky about applications and throw away applications that they don’t like |
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04:30:57 |
[DC] |
I wish my kids were more picky about apps - they each must have 75 apps on their phones |
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04:31:07 |
[JG] |
[JG]Heh, yeah, me too |
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04:31:14 |
[DC] |
what is your favorite app |
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04:31:18 |
[JG] |
Hm |
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04:31:32 |
[JG] |
I mostly use my browser app, honestly |
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04:31:58 |
[JG] |
also the Facebook app, the email app, sometimes a game or two |
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04:32:27 |
[JG] |
Oh, and music streaming apps |
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04:33:53 |
[JG] |
The best apps are the ones that are really intuitive amd useful |
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04:33:57 |
[JG] |
*and |
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04:34:46 |
[JG] |
If I have to spend a long time figuring out how to use something I’ll just go look for something easier |
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04:35:05 |
[DC] |
Agreed I often talk about one very simple app at was well worth the $1 - it crawled all of the train schedules, you told it where you live and it would use the GPS to tell you when the next express train was leaving |
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04:35:41 |
[DC] |
If there was one app you wish you had today what would it be |
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04:35:49 |
[DC] |
hard question |
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04:37:24 |
[JG] |
It would be something that let me accomplish something that is typically cumbersome more easily. Maybe a Wikipedia app, or an app for some other website that doesn’t work supremely well on a phone |
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04:44:57 |
[DC] |
last question - do you know what you want to do after school |
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04:45:32 |
[JG] |
Well, probably get something to eat and do my homework |
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04:45:35 |
[JG] |
But |
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04:45:38 |
[JG] |
Seriously |
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04:45:52 |
[JG] |
Probably be a developer / software engineer |
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04:46:37 |
[JG] |
Or a scientist - or an activist |
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04:47:02 |
[DC] |
I think you are off to a good start - I certainly was not developing mobile apps at 15 |
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04:47:31 |
[JG] |
Ha, well, I have resources available to me that you didn’t |
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04:47:34 |
[JG] |
Like the entire internet / open dev community |
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04:48:11 |
[DC] |
well, you’re being generous. The cell phone didn’t exist when I was 15 |
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04:48:59 |
[DC] |
I think I bought our first mobile phone when I was 20 or so - and it was a big bag phone about the size of today’s laptop |
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04:49:22 |
[JG] |
Wow |
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04:49:40 |
[JG] |
Well, exponential growth |
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04:49:46 |
[DC] |
Thanks for taking the time today |
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04:49:58 |
[JG] |
It was fun, thanks for inviting me |



